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"TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts" (the-vancen) 05/16/2015 at 04:20 • Filed to: None

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Its all about the engine isn’t it?

After my caffeine and diesel fueled brain storm that for some reason made me think that a Volvo five cylinder diesel would be a good idea, I thought, what else might work?

So, the ideas so far.

SHO Three litre V6.

Volvo five cylinder turbo diesel

Mercedes Benz five cylinder turbo diesel.

Ford Cologne 2 litre V6

Ford Cologne 2.8 litre V6

Ford Vulcan 3 litre V6

Obviously the Cologne and Vulcan engines are the simple ideas, both cologne engines I mentioned actually came out of Capri. Problem is both of those engines would need a heap of work. The 2.8 has been sitting in a driveway, in a snowbank for about 5 years. Also, there’s no timing cover on it, and with a Cologne, that means the oil pan is open to the air. So it’s likely a boat anchor.

The 2 litre is the most likely to work. It came out of my fathers 1979 Mk III that he swapped a pushrod 5.0 and T5 into. Problem here is, when it came out of the Capri, it was burning antifreeze faster than gasoline. Which could mean one of three things; one, a head gasket is blown. Pretty standard wear and tear, head gasket goes coolant gets through from the water jacket onto the cylinder. New gaskets, fresh coolant. In business. Two, gacket head. Slightly bigger problem, which means machine work. Expensive. Or new heads. Even more expensive. Especially since the 2 litre was a Germany only engine. Three, torched block. Engine is toast.

Good news is, with either Cologne, I already have a transmission that will work. A factory four speed from the 2 litre car.

The Vulcan came in Ranger and Mazda B series trucks. This is the simple way. Find a donor car, DONT fall in love with it like the last one, swap the bits, maybe get a Thunderbird super charger. Might do that regardless of what engine it gets.

The SHO was the genesis of this whole looney engine swap malarkey, so it still deserves a mention. At this point, I’ve got enough money into my SHO, which by the way, I bought to do this exact swap, that I can’t bring myself to kill it. What I can do is find an engine separately. Then find an M5OD-R1 transmission and then bolt it all in the Capri. I’ve done enough research that I feel confident that I could make the fuel injection and ignition system standalone.

Don’t ask me where the diesel idea came from, because I don’t know either. So obviously those idea aren’t really fleshed out since they probably won’t happen, cool as they would be. If some one knows where I can find a cheap, really cheap, five cylinder diesel and manual in a RWD setup, let me know. The two engines that came up were the Volvo D5 Turbo and the Mercedes Benz OM617.

Does Oppo have any ideas? There is already a Capri in this house with a 5 litre V8 so if I’m going to buy an engine, I want it to be something special. I already have the Cologne engines so they don’t count. Don’t worry about being reasonable or sensible. As long as you don’t mention LS swaps.

Don’t even think of saying LS swap. Matter of fact don’t mention Chevrolet or the Bowtie at all.

KatzManDu > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 04:54

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Buick/Rover V8. :D

SVTyler > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 04:55

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Turbo 2.3 out of the Mustang SVO.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > KatzManDu 05/16/2015 at 04:57

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That’s an idea. Again could be hard to find here believe it or not.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > SVTyler 05/16/2015 at 04:58

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Thunderbird Turbo Coupe engine? Fairly sure they’re the same engine. Ooor how about the supercharged 3.8 from the Super Coupe?

KatzManDu > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 04:59

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I’m originally from the USA — any junkyard with a land rover would have them, and you could strip it down and order a more basic intake manifold for a four-barrel carb from any hot-rod magazine. Land Rover used points ignition on those through the 1990s, so it’s fairly simple.

PatBateman > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 05:02

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Blown 350.

Source: A Volvo similar to yours with a blown 350 tried to race my friend’s GT-R (and was damn fast as well).

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > KatzManDu 05/16/2015 at 05:02

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Interesting. Was the Rover/Buick V8 related to the Nailhead? I’ll keep an eye open in the scrap yards. But being Land rover related, won’t that jack up the price quite a bit?

KatzManDu > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 05:12

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Not really. And no, Nailhead is way old (1940s.) The Rover/Buick V8 was a 215ci all-aluminum block from the 1960s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_…

kanadanmajava1 > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 05:33

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Volvo straight six from S80 is pretty nice engine and pretty easy to find. If it’s too big or powerful the straight 5 with 20 valves from S70 would produce nice amount of noise.

I’m not a fan of V6s so I always suggest straight engines over them.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > PatBateman 05/16/2015 at 05:34

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One, I don’t have a Volvo. Not sure where you got that. And two, did you not read the last paragraph? Keep your chevies.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > KatzManDu 05/16/2015 at 05:36

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Neat! I learn something every day. I’ll have to start looking.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > kanadanmajava1 05/16/2015 at 05:37

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See now the problem with straight sizes is space in a Capri. To put a straight six in there might involve chopping out the firewall. And that’s the only in mangled panel on the car haha. Do you happen to know how long the six you mentioned is?

kanadanmajava1 > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 06:03

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I did find the length at some point but cannot find or remember it anymore. It’s fairly short for a straight six. But it might still be a bit too long.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > kanadanmajava1 05/16/2015 at 06:04

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Ill make a point of taking a tape measure with me when i go see the car tonight.

MultiplaOrgasms > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 06:06

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Keeping the Volvo theme, get a Volvo V8. Either a B36 or (more likely) a B8444S.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > MultiplaOrgasms 05/16/2015 at 06:14

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Hmm. How about the one from the XC90? I’m sure I can scrounge a pair of turbos....

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > MultiplaOrgasms 05/16/2015 at 06:16

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Never mind, just read that the XC90 engine is the B8444S. Might be hard to find a transmission to go behind it though.

MultiplaOrgasms > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 06:35

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Hmm. Which transmission does the Noble M600 use?

kanadanmajava1 > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 06:37

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Some guy in Australia has managed to shove a RB30 in his Capri. The firewall looks to be intact but I’m not totally sure. That is pretty long engine so I guess radiator has moved quite much forwards.

Here’s the thread about it.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > MultiplaOrgasms 05/16/2015 at 06:49

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Mid engined. It uses a transaxle. Wait. Muhahahahaha. A Capri is a hatchback. Mid engine Capri!?

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > kanadanmajava1 05/16/2015 at 06:50

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Looking at that, it looks like he has clearanced the fire wall. But the radiator could come forward even further, so I guess a straight six is completely possible. Interesting.

TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts > kanadanmajava1 05/16/2015 at 06:52

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That thread is going to be very helpful when I get rolling on the body work again.

DoYouEvenShift > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 08:05

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TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 08:49

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Also fun fact, Land Rover kept the SAE bolt pattern on the bell housing so you can bolt a Buick trans right on.

PNO TECH > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 08:53

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If going diesel, >I< would advise the MB over the Volvo. When I was researching them a decade ago looking to get into a veggie-oil car, I saw many references to finicky Volvo injection pumps. So many that I ended up w/ a 126 even tho I much preferred the Volvo bodies. Just my opinion: YMMV.

PatBateman > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/16/2015 at 11:01

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A. I was/am tired. Chebie engines are good regardless.

2. What about a 572?

bleedsblue23 > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/17/2015 at 22:11

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Volvo t5?

All dat SHO motor, but the volvo would be cool.

bleedsblue23 > TheVancen- In Pursuit of a Greater Payday and Car Parts 05/17/2015 at 23:02

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another thought, 1jz? the 2.5 may be shorter than the 2jz.